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2021 – FCS Meetings Reports

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4/6/21 FCS Meeting and Wild Game Dinner

Six participants had a good time at the 4/6/21 FCS Meeting at Burl Fulenwider’s home.  The meeting featured grilled elk, teal, dove, two or three kinds of deer sausage, homemade red potato salad, coleslaw, and brownies.  Randy Rowley made a presentation on Bass Lures Basics.  During dinner we had a good discussion on the age of the earth and how science doesn’t necessarily conflict with creationism.  Thanks to Burl Fulenwider, Flint DeShazo, Jonathan Fleming, Raul Pena, and Randy for contributing wild game.

President’s Report

Membership – since our last meeting on 2/8/21, we had three people join the club and one first-time guest.  We presently have 72 supporting members.

Events – since our last meeting on 2/8/21, we had seven events with an attendance of 42 people, which is an average of 6.00 people per event.  We have 11 events planned from 4/7/21 until our next meeting on 6/3/21.  See our Calendar for details.

3/10/21 FCS Officers Meeting

Eight officers attended the 3/10/20 Officers Meeting via Zoom.  The following items were discussed:

  1. 2020 Past Events, Membership, and Finances (most include a comparison with the previous three reports), and 2021 Upcoming Events Report by Randy Rowley.

PAST EVENTS

    • Our attendance was 262 people, which was 196 fewer people than last year.
    • We had 60 events, which was 17 fewer events than last year’s record.
    • We averaged 4.37 attendees per event, which was down 1.58 attendees per event from last year.
    • Events attendance was down for most events and in most categories. The number of dove hunts and dove hunt attendance was down due to around 25 FCS members being on a season dove lease near Bartlett and not interested in paying $100 for a day hunt when they’re already paying $250 for the lease.
    • We had record attendance at a Guided Upland Bird Hunt (13 participants on 2/22/20), a Self-guided Teal Hunt (from a boat) (five participants on 9/26/20), and a Guided Sandhill Crane Hunt (four participants on 1/12/20).
    • Our Hog Hunt category attendance set a new record with 30 participants. Our Upland Bird Hunt (Pheasant, Chukar, and Quail) category tied the record with 22 participants.

Events Summary

Event

Number

Self-chartered Freshwater Fishing Trips (two were also Inland Duck Scouting Trips)

18

Self-guided Hog Hunts

12

FCS Sporting Clays Shoots

8

Self-guided Inland Duck Hunts

4

Sporting Clays Tournaments

4

Guided Upland Bird Hunts

2

Meetings

2

Self-guided/chartered Coastal Blasts and Casts (Duck Hunts and Bay Fishing Trips)

2

Guided Inland Teal Hunt

1

Guided Sandhill Crane Hunt

1

Officers’ Meeting

1

Self-chartered Bay Fishing Trip

1

Self-guided Inland Teal Hunt

1

Semi-guided Dove Hunt

1

Semi-guided Hog Hunt

1

Student Instructor/Student Sporting Clays Shoot

1

Total

60

Category Summary

Events

Number

Hunts

25

Fishing Trips

19

Shoots

13

Meetings

3

Total

60

Events Comparison

Year Total Attendees Number of Events Average Attendees per Event
Hog Hunts
2020 30 13 2.31
2019 10 2 5.00
2018 8 2 4.00
Regular Sporting Clays Shoots
2020 62 8 8.43
2019 96 11 8.73
2018 137 12 11.41
NSCA Sporting Clays Tournaments
2020 8 4 2.00
2019 56 23 2.43
2018 55 18 3.06
Dove Hunts
2020 5 1 5.00
2019 28 1 28.00
2018 35 3 11.67
Bay Fishing Trips
2020 4 1 4.00
2019 26 3 8.67
2018 10 1 10.00
Freshwater Fishing Trips
2020 55 18 3.06
2019 46 10 4.60
2018 43 12 3.58
FCS Meetings
2020 17 2 8.50
2019 76 6 12.67
2018 69 6 11.50
FCS Officer Meetings
2020 7 1 7.00
2019 5 1 5.00
2016 11 2 5.50
Pheasant and Quail Hunts
2020 13 1 13.00
2011 5 1 5.00
2010 5 1 5.00
Pheasant, Chukars, and Quail Hunts
2020 9 1 9.00
2019 12 2 6.00
2018 9 1 9.00
Guided Inland Duck Hunts
2019 4 1 4.00
2018 20 4 5.00
2017 12 3 4.00
Guided Sandhill Crane Hunts
2020 4 1 4.00
Guided Teal Hunts
2020 5 1 5.00
2018 3 1 3.00
2017 5 1 5.00
Self-guided/chartered Blasts and Casts (Duck Hunts and Bay Fishing Trips)
2020 16 2 8.00
2019 7 1 7.00
2018 11 2 5.50
Self-guided Duck Hunts
2020 14 4 3.50
2019 47 13 3.62
2018 21 8 2.63
Self-guided Teal Hunts
2020 5 1 5.00
2012 3 1 3.00
Yearly Attendance and Events
2020 262 60 4.37
2019 458 77 5.95
2018 478 76 6.29

MEMBERSHIP

New Members Summary

Year Number
2020 9
2019 10
2018 10

Membership Renewals Summary

Year Number
2020 25
2019 30
2018 21

Supporting Members Summary

Year Number
End of 2020 70
End of 2019 67
End of 2018 61

First Time Guests/Members Summary

Year Number
2020 22
2019 29
2018 34

FINANCES

During Fiscal Year 2020 (9/1/19 – 8/31/20) we took in $1450.96 in membership dues which is for single and multiple year renewals of 2, 3, and 5 years.  Allocated 2020 membership revenue is $1142.04.  We spent $1230.23, for a net loss of ($88.19).  For the ministry fund, we took in $60.46 and spent $164.28, for a net loss of ($103.82).

Finances Summary
Year Income Expenditures Profit or loss
Checking
FY 2020 $1,142.04 $1,230.23 ($88.19)
FY 2019 $1,142.05 $1,135.93 $6.12
FY 2018 $1,000.00 $955.00 $45.00
FY 2017 $877.05 $952.58 $75.53
FY 2016 $952.30 $1,160.52 $208.22
Savings
FY 2020 $60.46 $164.28 ($103.82)
FY 2019 $565.58 $282.30 $283.28
FY 2018 $650.00 $472.00 $178.00
FY 2017 $669.69 $252.46 $417.23
FY 2016 $595.00 $202.54 $392.46

UPCOMING EVENTS

We have 50 events planned for 2021, including:

Events Summary
Event Number
Self-chartered Freshwater Fishing Trips (two are also Inland Duck Scouting Trips) 9
Sporting Clays Tournaments 8
FCS Sporting Clays Shoots 6
Meetings 6
Self-guided Inland Duck Hunts 5
Guided Inland Duck Hunts 2
Self-chartered Bay Fishing Trips 2
Self-guided/chartered Coastal Blasts and Casts (Duck Hunts and Bay Fishing Trips) 2
Chartered Hybrid/Striped/White Bass Fishing Trip 1
Family Banquet 1
Guided Goose and Duck Hunt 1
Guided Inland Teal Hunt 1
Guided Upland Bird Hunt 1
Ministry Event (Wild Game Dinner) 1
Officers’ Meeting 1
Self-guided Teal Hunt 1
Semi-guided Dove Hunt 1
Semi-guided Hog Hunt 1
Total 50
Category Summary
Events Number
Hunts 15
Shoots 14
Fishing Trips 12
Meetings 7
Banquets 1
Ministry Events 1
Total 50

2.  Implement an FCS deer lease, proposal by Steve Fusco.

Steve noted that he can take more of an initiative in finding a deer lease for the club.  He knows a lot of folks already have some land somewhere that they use.  He asked what kind of reception does Randy think we would get and who should he keep in touch with?

Randy Rowley noted the following:

Regarding asking FCS members who own land if we can lease their property, as far as I know, there are only two landowners who are club members.  One owns 78 acres near Junction.  He has invited FCS to hunt hogs on his land for free several times and once for a cull-deer hunt.  He only has three stands and feeders.  The ranch is extremely strict on how many deer can be harvested per ranchette.  I’m 99.99% sure that he is not interested in leasing his land to Club members.  Even if I am wrong (I’ve known him for 32 years, so I’d be shocked if I am wrong) at most there is room for two more guns.  Typically, landowners allow for one hunter per 100 acres (some do one hunter per 200 acres), so three hunters on 78 acres would probably result in the deer shunning his land.

The other man, along with several of his brothers own about 160 acres near Brownwood.  He has allowed the Club to have dove retreats (most were unsuccessful) on his land and hog hunts.  Although I’ve only known him for 20 ears, I’m also 99.99% sure that he’s not interested in leasing it to the Club, as it would impact his brothers too.

Both men bought their land for their and their families’ enjoyment.  Sharing their land with non-family members was not a motivation for buying their land and was an afterthought.  They would probably react to a request to lease their land in the same way that they would if a Club member asked to move into their house with them – not very well.  In fact, the second man told me that he didn’t want to do any more dove retreats on his land due to the low number of people who showed up (several people who said that they were coming were either no shows or canceled at the last minute).  He felt that he had wasted his time driving 140 miles to open the gate for three people.

The Club has discussed having a Club season or year-round deer lease and even buying deer hunting property on more than one occasion, but the obstacles have always been insurmountable, including lack of funds, how to handle land or lease payments, what to do if a member wants to sell his share of the land or lease, maintaining the property, how to handle guests and other rules that will need to be developed and enforced, and the need for a lease manager.  Every time that we have discussed this we simply have not had enough members willing to pay the kind of money that was involved.  We have had and continue to have Club members join leases together but that is far from a Club deer lease, where any member could hunt.

Regarding deer hunting clubs, here is an east Texas club (the Donahue Hunting Club) that I found at https://huntinglocator.com/leases/details/donahue-hunting-club.

The cost is $925 per family limited to 2 Bucks and 2 Does per membership.  However, east Texas does not have nearly the whitetail population that the Hill Country has.  Furthermore, east Texas is very thick with trees, bushes, etc.  My son and I hunted state-owned land next to the Davy Crockett National Forest once and we could barely see 20 yards due to the thick forest.  We could have had a herd of deer 50 yards from us and we’d have never seen them.  Lastly, Bon Wier (the nearest town) is 302 miles from my house.  A 604-mile round trip would be too far for most of our members to travel for a weekend hunt.

Here’s an example from the other end of the spectrum – a south Texas hunting club that I found at https://huntinglocator.com/leases/details/fm-2644-hunting-club-south-texas-year-round-lease.  The cost is $15,899.25 per membership, plus $8,000 for membership expenses (protein, corn, repairs, electricity, water, cable tv, firewood, etc.).  I can think of maybe two members who can afford such a lease, and they both already have their own land to hunt on, as I previously mentioned.

The cheapest that I’ve seen a Hill Country lease advertised is $2500/hunter.

We are predominantly a bird hunting club.  Probably less than 30 of our members are on deer leases.  We’ve also always been a low-end (cost-wise) club.  The clear majority of our members are on a tight budget.  For example, I get grief when a dove hunt goes from $75 to $100.

Other factors that we’d have to tackle are whether we’d make this a club within the club (a subset), where (using the cheaper above example) $925 gets you in the club.

Here’s how a guy on Texasbowhunter.com described the difference between a hunting club and a hunting lease (see https://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=601789):

It all has to do with how the club or lease is set up and how it deals with ownership, liability etc. (I am no attorney so if you are chime in here). Our club is an LLC and every member signs a company agreement that lays out what your responsibilities and rights of ownership are. Each member has their prorated share of ownership and expenses. We change leadership from year to year to spread the work of running the operation amongst the group, have a budget, keep books etc. We have 10 members on 5,000 acres. We all own the blinds, the feeders, the housing and barns together. We own our vehicles separately. It really is nice; no member is more important than another. And as a member leaves, they are bought out by the next incoming member at established prices. It really works well and there is no question as to who is responsible for what. I will add that we are all friends, have similar goals and get along.

I have been on leases and in those instances, it was one guy that leased the land, and everyone just paid into the lease holder (what we called the lease boss). The lease boss basically ran the thing and depending on the set up was responsible for paying for the lease, the corn, protein etc. (depending upon the agreement with each leaseholder). In some instances, if it cost him $100k to run it and if he raised $125k in lease fees then that’s what he got. If it came to a shortfall, then that’s on him too. It is a more informal agreement and I would presume to be the most common used in Texas.

I’m in favor of having a lease (such as our dove lease near Bartlett that we had in 2020 and 2021) where members have the option of joining, but it doesn’t affect their Club membership, as long as someone other than me manages it, as my plate is full.  I’m opposed to changing FCS to a deer hunting-only Club or having it primarily as a deer-hunting club with extra events that the deer hunters get to do (e.g., duck, quail, and dove hunts, sporting clays shoots, fishing trips, etc.).  We’d be a very small club.

Kevin Wall noted that there could also be an issue on opening weekend if there are more lease members than there are stands.  This could cause conflict and hard feelings.

Raul Pena noted that there are free hunting options such as at the USACE properties at Lakes Whitney and Aquilla and in Oklahoma.  They do not presently have their pre-Covid requirement that you had to arrive in person between M-F/8:00-4:30 to get a USACE permit – it’s now done online.  He volunteered to head up a hunts to Aquilla and Oklahoma.

The officers were in favor of Steve sending out a poll to establish interest of members getting on a lease, but were not in favor of an exclusive “members-only” club deer lease.

3.  Change FCS to a non-profit (and, if we do that, change our name and possibly change our mission), proposal by Raul Pena.

Raul noted that there are several big-names in the hunting and fishing industry, such as Cabela’s, that donate to non-profit groups.  He noted that such groups have not shown interest in donating to Christian groups and that in order to make ourselves more attractive to such companies we’d probably have to change our name and possibly change our mission.  He contacted christianhuntersofamerica.org and three other groups with questions but did not receive a reply.  He noted a big obstacle is the makeup of Texas itself, which has little public hunting land compared to western states.  Randy noted that donors like to donate to clubs that can take their shareholders hunting (such as an Alaskan club that has access to tens of thousands of land to hunt on).  We don’t have much to offer Cabela’s (or another such organization) shareholders.  With those facts in mind, Raul chose to withdraw his proposal.

Randy Rowley noted, for those who wish to know how previous discussions on this topic went, that the officers discussed becoming a non-profit on at least three occasions, including the 1/19/09 Officers Meeting (see https://fcs-texas.org/club-meeting-reports/#more-2566), the 7/20/09 Officers Meeting (see https://fcs-texas.org/club-meeting-reports/#more-2566), and the 2/22/10 Officers Meeting (see https://fcs-texas.org/2010-club-meeting-reports/).

Unlike churches, religious organizations do not have to apply to the IRS for tax-exempt status unless their gross receipts normally exceed $5,000 annually.  Our gross receipts do not come close to exceeding $5,000 annually.  The officers decided at the 2/22/10 meeting that if our gross receipts ever exceeded $5,000 annually we would need to file for tax exempt status as a 501(c)(3) religious organization and begin to file Form 990-N (the e-Postcard).

As I spearheaded an effort back in 1990 to change our name from the B&P (Burp & Poot) Club, I’m not opposed to a name change if it has the potential for us to continue to be a light in the darkness and to generate donations.

When we started the B&P Club we did so as an avenue for men to “let their hair down” and have fun in Christian brotherhood.’”  A couple of years later we changed our name to FCS.  At first, we were primarily Christian in name only.  We’d pray before meals, engage in service projects to help people in need, obey game laws, and not do certain things like drink alcohol at Club events.  But we didn’t do anything that was overtly Christian.

Several years ago, the Lord impressed on me to change that.  We now have devotionals at meetings and most events that involve us having to miss church on Sundays, like our Blasts and Casts.  Now, I consider us to be a light in the darkness of the hunting and fishing world and I consider my job to not be a presidency – rather I see it as my ministry.  Therefore, I cannot support having missions 2–4 (see https://fcs-texas.org/about-us/club-bylaws/) deleted in order to attract donors.

4.  Implement training classes using local gun trainers, fishing guides, boating trainers, and field medical training, proposal by Steve Fusco.

Steve noted that a great way to get people into a sport or a hobby is
training classes.  For example, his sister loved going with him down to
the National Shooting Complex in San Antonio to go break clays with an instructor.  I didn’t think he would have been able to get her to go on a hunt, but she would do a class like that.  Now she loves guns and is talking about getting her own.

Steve asked Randy what he thought about making more of an effort to connect with new hunters and fishermen by working with local gun trainers and fishing guides or even boating trainers and field medical training?  He thinks if in addition to our hunting and fishing events that we host, if we also added some training classes to the schedule people would go.  He knows it’s easy for guys to just assume we know everything, or pretend like we do, but he loves this kind of stuff and get lots of great
ideas that he can practice when he’s not at the class and is just at
the range by myself.

Randy Rowley noted we once did classes at a Fall Dove Retreat in the 90’s on the Ewald Ranch near Dilley, between hunts.  Classes included archery, operating fishing reels, shotgun shell reloading, etc.  They were not well attended, as most hunters were taking naps or at least trying to stay out of the sun.  We did not repeat them at subsequent dove retreats.

We have also done five Youth Sporting Clays Shoots at Capital City Clays where we did a lecture on shooting safety, how to hold a shotgun, stance, lead, timing, swing, etc. and then did hands-on instruction in the shooting boxes.  These were successful.  A couple of years ago Randy sent out a request for ideas on Youth Groups that we could invite for our next shoot.  One man responded that he could get his boy scout troop to come shoot with us.  But, despite around a half-dozen follow-ups from Randy, he never followed through.  We will make this a priority again.

As Steve noted, we have done seven Student Instructor/Student Sporting Clays Shoots at the National Shooting Complex in San Antonio.  But we’re limited to going when they’re offering such shoots.

We’ve done two Beyond the Basics Pistol classes with KR training near Giddings that saw up to seven students.  Those who went had a good time.

We have done three License to Carry Classes at Eagle Peak Shooting Range near Jonestown that saw up to seven students, but the last time that we did one (in 2018) we only had one person attend.   The classroom section of these classes is now offered online, so this no longer is a viable event.

We did a Hunter Education class, I can’t recall where, in 1992 that saw three students.  Those classes are not offered online, so this no longer is a viable event.

An issue with asking a sporting clays instructor, fishing guide, boat operations trainer, etc. to hold a class is such classes will be expensive.  Most sporting clays instructors charge at least $75/hour for one person, for example.  Fishing guides, for example, will want to do teaching while on the water and in the act of fishing.  Brian Turner, for example, can only handle three fishermen in his boat.  Most guides can only handle two fishermen in their boats.  If they came to a meeting to make a presentation they would charge us a pretty penny.

Over the years FCS members have written many articles on a wide variety of subjects that are housed on our Articles page.  Although training was not the primary purpose of the authors, they can serve as training for new sportsmen.

Most of the articles on the page are “how-to” articles.  Some of the articles are opinion pieces that are supported by facts, such as Choosing a Deer and Hog Rifle.  Our articles page includes 28 “how-to” articles, including:

Eleven of the articles on the page are more in the realm of food for thought or editorials.  These include:

In addition, our Safety Tips page includes the following five tips:

Also, although the intent of our devotionals was not training, some of them, such as Sight Casting, contain considerable “how-to” information.  There 93 devotionals on our Devotionals pages.  There are also 34 stories on our Stories page.

The officers were in favor of Steve doing a poll to establish interest.  Randy will add to meeting announcements that along with hunting and fishing experiences and tips, members can make how-to presentations.

2/8/21 FCS Meeting and Shrimp Boil

Ten participants, including one first time guest, had a good time at the 2/8/21 FCS Meeting at Randy and Chris Rowley’s home.  The meeting featured shrimp, beef sausage, red potatoes, corn-on-the-cob, jalapenos, chips, spinach dip, salsa, brownies, and cheesecake bites.  Wayne Weilnau shared about to apply for out of state (New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, and Nevada) elk, mule deer, pronghorn antelope, and moose hunts.  Randy Rowley led a devotional called Steering Straight.

President’s Report

Membership – since our last meeting on 11/9/20, we had one person join the club, two people renew their memberships, and seven first-timers.  We presently have 71 supporting members.

Events – since our last meeting on 11/9/20, we had 15 events with an attendance of 73 people, which is an average of 4.87 people per event.  We have 12 events planned from 2/9/21 until our next meeting on 4/6/21.  See our Calendar for details.

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Bible verse of the day

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